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11/25/2010 2:59:17 PM
revised for clarity:

hi Jem, some of my interviewees are not familiar with film language so I am resending a revised version (below the abstract)

I am also at Camberwell and Andy suggested I consult you re my paper, but here is the generic interview:
Claire Alonge

c.alonge1@camberwell.arts.ac.uk (if you e-mail me I can attach the paper for background info.)

(07956 233 366 if you prefer I could meet you with a voice recorder and buy you a coffee)

Title: Can Cyber-narratives undermine the Editor’s Craft?

Research Question

Consider traditional styles of narrative in relation to interactive media productions: is the role of an editor affected by this environment?

Abstract

Motivation

There is a growing awareness of how interactive digital media environments can dramatically affect a narrative. I am looking at media creations for narrative strength and possible decline in the ‘wow’ factor of traditional edits, due to the (possibly distracting) presence of interactive control.

Problem

The field of editing is yet to be formally discussed in relation to this new awareness. It appears that traditional film edit bonuses may be overshadowed by the participatory nature of digital narratives.

Methods

An overview of traditional narrative forms in relation to the editor’s role was followed by an commentary on digital narratives, their literary strength and whether the effects of edit styles is diminished by interaction.
Industry professionals such as editors and creators of new media productions were interviewed. Their contributions were used to inform the results and conclusions.

(Limitations: although a fair comparison between current media productions and traditional narrative forms may be difficult, the formats should not affect the study as the focus is on narrative and the editor’s role.)

Questions for Practitioners on Editing: Answer

1. Interactive narratives in new media productions (such as gaming and MUDs, LARP, live cinema etc), may affect the frequency of filmic effects such as parallel edits, jump cuts, concept, form, stylistic, action and split edits, ontological, rhythmic and metric montages. Our esteem for the editor’s craft may also be compromised in a world of co-authored cyber-narratives. Interaction significantly affects digital narratives and to some extent the options for editing. This may sideline effects like suspense, mystery etc. Interaction stimulates via participation, control, community membership or the escapism of avatars and adopted personas. But will we lose appreciation for the traditional film edit styles we have been familiar with since the advent of cinema?

2. In media productions, will traditional edit styles continue to be seen in their previous strength or variety, when the viewer / interactor / player can choose the ending or interact with the piece in other ways?

3. Consider traditional narrative forms and styles versus emerging narrative patterns in media productions: is the role of an editor altered in this environment?

4. Editing has a pivotal role in the future. Would you agree with this and could you comment further?

5. Do you foresee DIY editing impacting our regard for traditional edit styles, which have been central to film language throughout cinematic history?





11/19/2010 1:44:03 PM
these are my questions - you could contact me at c.alonge1@camberwell.arts.ac.uk or thevine15@hotmail.com
if you wish I could attach the word file for the questions which is easier to read

many thanks and good luck with the PhD! : ) ps my paper is due shortly so even brief answers will help me... I have been writing it since last Dec but just need some field work now

11/19/2010 1:40:14 PM
Title: How will Cyber-editing Develop and Flourish,
and will the Film Editor’s Craft Decline?

INTRODUCTION
Keywords: editing / interaction / narrative / moving image

Research Question
Consider traditional styles of narrative in relation to emerging interactive formats like live cinema or gaming: how does the role of an editor fit into this environment?

Abstract

Motivation
There is a growing awareness of how digital media settings such as live cinema can dramatically affect a narrative.

Problem
Moreover, it appears that traditional film edit styles may be negated or radically altered by digital narratives of the future. The role of the editor seems yet to be considered within this emerging body of knowledge.

Questions on Editing for Practitioners
• If the future of cinema continues follows the route computer narratives (such as gaming and MUDs) have taken in terms of interaction, it is difficult to predict how filmic effects such as parallel edits, jump cuts, concept, form, stylistic and split edits, ontological, rhythmic and metric montages will fare in a future of co-authored cyber-narratives. Interaction significantly affects digital narratives and to some extent the options for editing. This in turn may affect bonuses like suspense, mystery etc. Interaction does give alternative forms of stimulation, e.g. participation, control, being part of a community or escapism via adopted personas, but are we beginning to lose the traditional film edit styles we have been familiar with since the advent of cinema?

• Will traditional edit styles continue to exist in their previous strength or variety, when the viewer / interactor / player can choose the ending or interact with the production in other ways?


• Consider traditional narrative forms and styles versus emerging narrative patterns: how does the role of an editor fit into this environment?

• Editing has a pivotal role in the future. Can you comment on this?

• DIY editing… is this the only way forward for editing?


• Narrative will exist in the future in various states of transformation, as will editing, but what will the equivalent of the traditional film editor’s role become?

• Conclusion: minimized, heightened or altered role for editing within future media productions: which do you think?


11/19/2010 1:38:29 PM
hi Jem, I am doing MA Digital Arts part time year 2 at Camberwell

my research paper concerns the effects on traditional editing that live cinema and other media productions is having and how that will likely continue to change in the future

can I mail you my 20 minute interview or should I post it here

if you prefer I can meet you in Camberwell with a voice recorder

thanks

Claire Alonge

background:

BA(Hons) Design, Glasgow School of Art, 1987

Worked as a graphic designer in London 1987-2000

career break with children

Access to Multimedia 2008-2009

3/10/2010 11:42:14 PM
Hi Jem, I'm hoping you might have a Nelson Leirner video that you helped copy with Cate Elwes at Camberwell a couple of years back... The work is called A Rebeliao dos Animais, 1975, (16mm on dvd)
.

Do let me know! My email is colin@preromanbritain.com

Many thanks

Colin

9/22/2009 2:48:55 PM
Hi Jem, good to catch up with you via your site. Someone mentioned Falmouth recently & i thought of you. The ant video is fascinating & we can presume that this is one ant bridge among many: apparently there is a colony which spans 3 continents. Taking their organisation to its logical conclusion, in order to subsume the Earth the queen will one day shout 'Ok everyone, 3 paces to the right' & we will be done for. But could ants on such a scale be that synchronised?
Best wishes,
Rupert (Smith)

Welcome!

My Art is an enquiry into the political structures of open, non-hierarchical and collaborative filmmaking, and the aim of this site is to be a digital sketchbook. I will be using it to 'log' ideas, thoughts and realizations of those thoughts.


Here is a new book out called Philosophy in Art edited by Richard Osborne. I wrote a chapter in it about the philosophy of collaboration so it must be good. If you want to buy a copy, I can get you it at 50% off - that would be £5+P&P but you would need to email me (info@jemmackay.co.uk) for a copy.

www.swarmtv.org - a website for collaborative film projects

Papers and Presentations




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9/9/2008 11:24:27 AM
we have been trying to get back to re our PhD workshop at Bath Spa university but your email address at Camberwell does not work - when we click on 'reply' it just bounces back. Had hoped to send you an agenda for the day. If you receive this before the 11th. Sept pls let us have a different email address or just turn up at Sion Hill reception at 9am. Thanks!
Linda Khatir

9/1/2008 1:00:11 AM
Hi Jem,

The email I have for you bounced and I can't seem to find it here so I hope you dont mind that I am uploading a flyer for an exhibition I'm in.
from Timothy Crowley




• Sure - no problem, Tim ~ Jem



10/17/2007 11:22:03 PM
Hi jem,

i'm a new MA student at camberwell and enjoyed your talk on editable spaces the other week.
i'm writing because i'm trying to re-organise the madigitalarts wikispace and was wondering if you knew who the user called MADA was. He/she set up the space in sept 2005 and is the only person who can change the themes, backgrounds, logos etc. They aren't answering PMs. I see you were an early member of the space.

If you could leave a note on the wikispace anywhere or PM me there (timpickup) with details you have on MADA - or an email that would be great.

thanks

tim pickup

Hi Jem,

Met Chris Mitchell in Edinburgh. He said you could recommend good opensource VJ software. I want to be able to do a live mix of at least 2 pre-recorded using only only a laptop and a projector.

Phil

Hi Phil - Good to meet you. There's one called Pixeltango (you might have to search for this one the link I knew about is not working but it was www.tot.sat.qc.ca/eng/pixeltango.html), or Jahshaka (www.jahshaka.org) - depending on how much you want to develop it.
~ Jem



Hi Jem,

Long
time no see. Hope you are doing OK. Last time we worked together you mixed
some of your own software together with other stuff to create live TV. I
am working now on a daily broadcast on a new familychannel and I need to
mix live. I have a 4 channel video mixer, 3 cam's (prosumer) and one
person is talking for about 6 minutes. This iss a small item we program
into into a daily program of one hour. I use mac's and don't want to edit
later.

Could you please help with some idea's and if possible
software?

Bless,

Rolof


rolof"atsign"millson"dot"com



Hi Jem - Chung
Hi Chung -


Jem


Jem - just checking out what you have been up to
hope you guys are all well - Matt Scrim

Hi Matt - we're doing fine.
We're moving to Cornwall shortly but don't have a date as yet. How's
you? - Jem


Awright

Jem, we've met a few times, i'm
writing an essay on what John Thakara means when he talks about a 'less
stuff - more people' approach to
design. What do you think? I hope you
settle well in Cornwall. - Al Rodger (Matt's mate)

Hi Al. Sounds
like a great topic. Haven't read it but I have read about people who have.
It sounds like his thinking isdefinitely needed at
this time of
hyper-connectedness and globalization. I'd like to hear what your
conclusions are about him. See you. - Jem


Jem, the firm answer
is that you should get into Ruby on
Rails. To your question of last
month on Why! Sarah Fordham just met Sarah Robson the other day. Too many


Sarahs, huh! Hope all is well in Cornwall. --Richard

Thanks
Richard - I'll definitely look into it --Jem


who are you? -
Anon

Hi - I'm Jem Mackay. I'm studying an PhD at Camberwell College
of Arts,
and this is my research blog. Basically, I try to analyse my
experiences and make sense out of them as part of my enquiry into the
political structures of Creative Collaboration. Who are you? -

Jem


you have the same name as me me woo hooo
i found this
cause i wrote my name in google
lol --jem
p.s whats the website
about? soz im 11




hack by psychozetic@telkom.net

And
re-hacked by mr aan@telkom.net


juga...:P

 Nice to meet you Mr Aan -
Jem



Great work!



Hi Jem

Very
interesting site. I left the search box blank, hit "search" and

browsed the results. Lots of interesting pages. I quite like the fact

that I can't quite work out what the site is about, and perhaps that's

the whole point...

Great hacking by the above people - 'twas a
real challenge, eh!

Richard (Swan)



Cool site. Thank
you:-)

No Problem - enjoy! ~ Jem


5/17/2008 10:54:59 PM
Hi, Jem! Are you going to be doing your latest swarmTV project here on this website?
Good luck with it! Sarah xx

Thanks, Sarah. Actually, no, its going to take place at www.swarmtv.org - Jem